threesixty
2:38 Fri Dec 1
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I dont buy all that "players aren't good enough" stuff.
None of the teams below us bar Chelsea has a set of better individual players. And of the teams above us, Villa, Brighton and maybe Newcastle / Spurs dont have a better squad either.
What they do have is a better manager, at least coaching wise,
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Fauxstralian
2:23 Fri Dec 1
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Paqueta may well go to Man City for the £85m buyout but imagine Pep would drum all those lazy bits where he gives the ball away out of him.
Bit like he has with Grealish
That said now that he has taken all the flair out of Grealish he has brought in Doku who is more of a risk taker
Benrahma just hasnt got the end product and finishing we need and hasnt looked like developing it.
To be honest when clubs were looking the Brentford players I wanted Watkins .... plus Eze from QPR
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Lee Trundle
1:59 Fri Dec 1
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twoleftfeet 12:41 Fri Dec 1
"I also have issues with Paqueta, he doesn't dominate teams the way he should do and if Man City offer £50m I snap their hands off."
You'll have to do better than that. Alex V said he would have sold him for £15m the day after we won the conference.
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Takashi Miike
1:40 Fri Dec 1
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"I also have issues with Paqueta, he doesn't dominate teams the way he should do"
how the fuck is he supposed to dominate teams when he's out of position in a deep wide left role? do you know anything about football or just bored and come on here for company?
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Moncurs Putting Iron
1:25 Fri Dec 1
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Come On You Irons and Two left,
We can agree to disagree on how he became risk averse and wont try anything imaginative but the we can all agree on what his next move should be.
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Come On You Irons
1:11 Fri Dec 1
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Absolutely laughable to claim Moyes has 'broken' Benhrama.
A turd is a turd. You can't polish a turd. Benrahma is a turd at this level.
He should bugger off to Saudi Arabia, the Championship or another league of equivalent standard where he belongs.
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Nick QQQ
1:02 Fri Dec 1
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Moncurs Putting Iron 12:36 Fri Dec 1
Agree with that.
I expect Fab to move on as well for game time and wouldn't be massively surprised if Antonio moves on (not that we'll get much in the way of a fee).
Ings wages are a big problem. He wont get half what he's earning here, unless he chased the money in the middle east
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the exile
12:57 Fri Dec 1
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Toe - agreed, one of his better games. And yes, I did notice that pass to Benrahma - had to do a double-take to make sure it was Soucek!
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Toe knee cot Tea
12:52 Fri Dec 1
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I watched Soucek closely last night and he actually played very well. Picked up lots of loose bits, always working, always available and some good passing (anyone else spot the 40 yard cross field ball straight to Benrahma?)
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twoleftfeet
12:41 Fri Dec 1
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Moyes hasn't broken Benrhama, he just wasn't/isn't good enough.
I also have issues with Paqueta, he doesn't dominate teams the way he should do and if Man City offer £50m I snap their hands off.
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Moncurs Putting Iron
12:37 Fri Dec 1
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Soucek has been freed up now that Rice of the Hammers is playing Roy of the Rovers for someone else.
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Moncurs Putting Iron
12:36 Fri Dec 1
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Players who should not be here by the end of January:
Johnson: Wants too much time on the ball, end product in final third is poor.
Fornals: Always liked him but a year on the fringes has broken his enthusiasm, He's mentally already out the door as far as I can see.
Benhrama: Confidence shot to shit, broken player, well done Mr Moyes.
Ings: Will stand around waiting for service that will never come until we ship him off to the Championship.
Cresswell: Age has caught up with him and he cant catch up with play.
Players on Borrowed time
Kehrer
Cornet
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Sir Alf
12:17 Fri Dec 1
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The explanation of Moyes still operating a first team model only and not a squad might be why Cornet, Downes last season get frozen out. Not part of his 14 preferred players?
I can see no other logical explanation ? Cornet you can see has superior technique not just the cross but ability to control it and pass. He’s quick in relative terms ( not hard ) and moved more than the entire team in his 10-15 minute cameo.
But I suspect that’s the last we see of him. I thought maybe it was because he was not a Moyes pick ( Sullivan gift or Newman had recruited him ) so was being ignored but he got injured and Moyes decided he did not make the core 13 or 14 that Moyes uses.Probably as simple as that ?
He will likely be sold in Jan or summer ifMoyes is still around
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w4hammer
11:49 Fri Dec 1
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absolute dire lazy preformance from a team of unmotivated and past it players, bar a couple of exceptions thats an embarrasing poor performance
why the fuck does he play JWP as a no 6- hes wasted there.
Zero intensity- the likes of fornals and benny getting ANOTHER chance to show hwo poor they are, over Cornet /other fringe players
anyone looking at the stats and not realising how bad we really are needs their bumps felt...
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Lee Trundle
11:48 Fri Dec 1
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"Benrahma completely stunk the place out. I said all along he is a Championship level player. Will be amazed if he is not shown the exit door next Summer."
Good to see the 2021 version of COYI is back.
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Come On You Irons
11:41 Fri Dec 1
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Yet another dreadful, boring performance but we ground out a win and it is in our hands to avoid the play off round.
Nice bit of quality by Cornet for the cross and nice to see Soucek bang another one in.
Benrahma completely stunk the place out. I said all along he is a Championship level player. Will be amazed if he is not shown the exit door next Summer.
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Willtell
11:05 Fri Dec 1
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That would be my experiment too Alf. But it's too imaginative for Moyes I fear
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Sir Alf
11:03 Fri Dec 1
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Agree again Fraser. Better to play Soucek as a false 9 and avoid being a player short in midfield.
The Moyesball model is like playing “Buckeroo” each game. Every game is another object on the old cart horse until it eventually collapses. Not sustainable for winning football using just 14 players. Around Feb / March will we still be top half of the league, in the Europa and another cup ? Or just in one cup and top half ? I’d wager it’s unlikely but we shall see.
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fraser
10:47 Fri Dec 1
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Yeah agree with that about Soucek, but he isn't a striker and that's the problem because we're losing the midfield if he doesn't contribute there I actually think we would have been better to play him as a striker last night, he could pop up with the goals and not to the midfield's detriment.
Mubama wasn't in the game at all I don't see how we could have been any worse.
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cholo
10:41 Fri Dec 1
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Soucek reminds me a bit of Nolan in that he seemingly does fuck all for long periods but you could usually rely on him to pop up with an important goal. Can see Tomas getting well over ten goals this season and for a midfielder that's huge asset.
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Manuel
10:26 Fri Dec 1
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Yep, a good time Sunday.
I read a good point from someone who said that Moyes has his preferred, say 14, and pretty much alienates the rest, but when we have injuries, suspensions, and as you say Africa in Jan then he has to rely on his squad who may not fancy the fight or not match sharp etc. Looking at alst night the squad fillers didn't look motivated at all in terms of trying to get in for Sunday, no doubt because they know they won't anyway even if they played really well. Did the Greek join us just to play on Thursday nights and in the league cup? It's like we now have a side A and a side B.
Going to back to Soucek, granted maybe an out of date concept in the modern game, but if you had a striker that played shit but got the winner he always got a pass, 'he did his job' would be the line, I think the same kind of concept applies to Soucek here, maybe even more so since he's not even a striker, of course when he doesn't score is when it becomes an issue. No doubt Moyes will be feeling fully justified in picking him.
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